Your Questions About Pot Limit Omaha

Carol asks…

Opinions on Omaha 8b pot limit?

I know the popular wisdom concerning Omaha 8b fixed limit is that it is – for the studious, capable player – a steady earner and doesn’t have the swings and roundabouts of hold’em that seem to entail the rake taking a larger chunk out of your earnings that one might like. (takes breath).

What is the popular wisdom concerning the pot limit variety in this regard?

Also – since most if not all literature concerning Omaha 8b pertains to fixed limit – what modifications do I need to make to my: a) starting hand selections and b) card play post flop when playing pot limit. If anybody could recommend a good site that deals with this matter, I would be very grateful.

poker holdem answers:

Well i’m no expert at omaha 8b Pot limit, but I have played PLO – (high) and NL hold em. I’ve seen in pokerstars that they do spread PL O 8/b and also NL O 8/b. I’ve never delved into these games but have played many hours of LIMIT Omaho 8/b.

I think the correct assumption in playing Pot limit split pot games is that you should have a good two way hand (HI and LOW). A good high hand only and a good low hand only lose value in pot limit, because you don’t know if you’ll be splitting the pot or if you’ll get quartered. It seems that only the nut low and nut high hands will be betting the pot frequently, which could put you in a diffficult situation if you are sitting on the 2nd nut low or 2nd nut high on the flop or turn with no other draws to the nuts. In addition, the river card could change everything, so I assume that this game of PL Omaho 8/b could be truly volatile.

Edit: i think the principle from limit omaha 8/b that you need hands that “scoop” the pots remains a key aspect. So again it’s important to play those hands that could easily have the nut hi and low hands…I think I read that the best starting hand in omaha 8/b is A-A-2-3 double suited. This is an interesting question (for me anyway). Thanks.

As for websites, i would probably go to the www.twoplustwo.com forums and they’l have lots of advice for ya…good luck at the tables!

Mary asks…

Why does Omaha always seem to be “Pot Limit” and not “No Limit”?

poker holdem answers:

Good poker players do not like to call all ins pre-flop or early in a hand. Because of the nature of Omaha, there are very few hands worth calling an all in with pre-flop (even pocket aces is iffy if you don’t have decent cards to back them up). So, if you were to sit down at a table of experience Omaha players and simply go all in every hand, you’re going to win 99% of the pots. The game would then grind to a screeching halt, as it would become a game of bingo. By putting a cap on the raises, you’re encouraging more people to call into raised pots with a wider range of hands. This keeps to game flowing and makes it more enjoyable (and profitable to the savvy player).

James asks…

Anyone played Omaha/Hold em at Foxwoods?

I mainly play the pot limit Omaha and 3/6, 4/8 No Limit Hold em in AC at the Tropicana. Make good money but want a change of scenery so me and my girlfriend who plays are going to Foxwoods. Just checkin around about the atmosphere, players, and the money there.

poker holdem answers:

Casino games are casino games – whether you are in AC or Vegas or Foxwoods. If you play the same limits – you’re likely to see the same people who go to AC.

David asks…

Anyone play Omaha/Hold em at Foxwoods?

I mainly play the pot limit Omaha and 3/6, 4/8 No Limit Hold em in AC at the Tropicana. Make good money but want a change of scenery so me and my girlfriend who plays are going to Foxwoods. Just checkin around about the atmosphere, players, and the money there.

poker holdem answers:

I play at foxwoods sometimes but be careful if you are not used to Omaha. You forget sometimes that you have to use both of your cards and think you have a great hand… But you don’t. That if you are not familiar with the game. You can always find a table (if you are willing to wait) at Foxwoods.

Nancy asks…

What was your most bizarre poker hand?

It just happened tonight in a free roll. I won a 6975 chip in Pot Limit Omaha with a pair of kings. I could not believe it since that is such a horrible Omaha hand.
PokerStars which makes it even more bizarre

poker holdem answers:

I can think of a couple:

1. In one SNG, i got knocked out with AA vs 54 suited. So, i started a new game, and on the very first hand, i get 54 suited on the button. First to act goes all in, then somebody else calls. I say, what the heck, and call too. One guy flips over aq, other guy flips over ak, and I win when my 5’s pair.

2. Weird hands that happened yesterday:
a. K2 vs KQos. Flop comes down 229, and then running spades for a 4 card flush for KQ.
B. 99 vs TT: a nine comes on the flop, and a ten on the turn.
C. Short stack gets blinded in 3 times in a row. Hits 2 fh’s and a two pair to stay in the game, and then goes on to win.

3. One that happened just now:
JJ goes all in, I call with A9. I pair the A on the flop, JJ is out of the tourny. Very next hand, A7 calls JJ’s all in, makes trip 7’s on the turn and river. Update: still in the same tourney, JJ loses for the 3rd time to aT.

Oh, btw, I seen high card win at omaha. One time, i went like 15 out of 20 hands without even making a pair.

Update: another bizarre hand, but i wasn’t in it:

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A3 vs A10 vs 55
flop comes down: 5 3 10
A3 catches runners for the flush and takes the main pot.
Trip 5’s takes the secondary pot.
A10 is eliminated.

Since you like Omaha, this hand just came up:

My hand: 7, 5, 10, 8

The flop and turn are:
9, 6, 4, J

I can make a straight here with any 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, Q = 17 outs.
I had 3 open ended straight draws, and like 5 possible gutshots.

Oh, the river was a 7, but the other guy made the low.

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Since this question is still open…

Here’s another one: I’m under the gun, so i fold QJ. After a bunch of betting, QQ is all in vs sb’s QJ. The flop comes down:
3 j 7 6 j

Basically, the QJ needed the last J in the deck to win.

*****

Another weirdo hand:

I have 66, and SB goes all in with 57.

Flop comes down
4 A 3.
If I hit my trips, I lose.

Turn is a 7. Now even if I hit trips, I lose. But, the last card:
5.

I win with a straight when they make two pair.

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